Curse

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12

I'm so sick of this. I'm 18, I have a right to free speech. I can say RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I want, I can say shit if I want. Why on earth can I get reported, and get banned for swearing? There is a word filter in place for people who dislike it, and you can turn off chat if It really bothers you. Sure, I don't agree with using racism and stuff but if someone is saying stuff like that there are so many ways around it. Got two people paying 500g for a 2 plat CoF run before because of my swearing. I said RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO when I died once because someone lured out spiders and got us a party wipe. And I can't do anything about it, because if they report me I'm going to get a 3 day ban or a week ban.

This kind of situation is rare, but seriously people need to either grow up a little or just not take a fantasy game so seriously.

Edit: Lol I think you can guess what that wordfiltered word is, I think thats fine but why cant people on GW wordfilter too?

JupiterStarWarrior · Aug 22, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Sounds more like a rant to me, but I agree with the chat filters; they can be enabled. But, one has to remember that there are 13+ year-olds playing the game, too. But, then again, the chat filters need to be enabled on them as well.

As for removing the "report for language" suggestion, I don't agree with that because people still "post" racist comments, and that, to me, isn't right. Also, if people are excessive (for example, they keep dropping the f-bomb for no reason), it's not right, either. Yes, the chat filters can be enabled, but if all the person is saying "--- you you ----ing ----tard" every other line, you kind of wonder...

It doesn't sound like to me that you were dropping the f-bomb, but how do you know if someone is reporting you? You just hold on to your butt and hope for the best.

Note: I've always wanted to use that line... ^_^

Hope everything works out for you. And love your character's name, by the way.

Shadowhaze · Aug 22, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

I don't think excessive language is really needed anyway. Leave as is as far as I'm concerned.

Chthon · Aug 22, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

I'm so sick of this. I'm 18, I have a right to free speech.

That's right, the US government won't punish you for anything you say on GW.

A-net can, though. And, to a degree, they should. I have never seen them handing out bans for general comments that happen to include words that the filter catches. And I wouldn't want them to. But they are and ought to be banning people who specifically direct abuse towards other people and people who circumvent the filter.

poasiods · Aug 22, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

I don't think the function of reporting for language is to weed out trivial things like the usage of 'fvck' or 'shit.' I have no problem with people who frequently drop f-bomb in chat and so far, my liberal use of such expressions hasn't resulted in anything.

Those tards on RA or GtoB spewing out very offensive bullshit... That's what the 'Report for Language' function was made for.

Jenn · Aug 22, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by Chthon

That's right, the US government won't punish you for anything you say on GW.

A-net can, though. And, to a degree, they should. I have never seen them handing out bans for general comments that happen to include words that the filter catches. And I wouldn't want them to. But they are and ought to be banning people who specifically direct abuse towards other people and people who circumvent the filter.

What Chthon said

I think "bad language" has less to do with what words are used and more to do with how they are used. I can pointlessly tear someone apart without calling them a motherfcuker, etc., and that is ethically more incorrect than just using curse words in conversation.

If anyone is offended by the simple use of what has been decided by society to be curse words, then hopefully they will be smart enough to use the chat filter and shut up.

Clarissa F · Aug 22, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

You want to know why there is reporting? Spend 5 minutes in LA AD 1. Judging from the refuse there, I wish there were more reporting.

Lalamika · Aug 22, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

I don't know about the entire free speech argument. I don't think they should remove the reporting for language option per se, but change it. I've been known to say things like damn or shit occasionally and I've been waiting for my ban from anet, since they've been kinda anal lately. (Lol my brain just totally fried in the middle of this post, so I'll probably come and edit it again later.

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Arkantos · Aug 22, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Pretty sure they only ban you for insulting or saying something offensive (racist words, etc). I don't think they ban for just saying the f word, there's a filter for a reason.

If they do ban for swearing without directing it anyone or being offensive, they should stop, because it makes the report option false, and the language filter pointless.

Kumu Honua · Aug 22, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

George Bush asked me to tell you that he has no plans whatsoever in stopping you from saying **** or **** or **** in Guild Wars.

He regrets to inform you that it is well within ANET's rights to do with you as they wish.

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Quote:

Pretty sure they only ban you for insulting or saying something offensive (racist words, etc). I don't think they ban for just saying the f word, there's a filter for a reason.

They can and will ban you for any foul language. The EULA states that you will not use foul language. The filter doesn't give anyone the right to use foul language since the EULA specifically says that you cannot.

Ariena Najea · Aug 22, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Regardless of whether you have the right of free speech in a video game... I'd rather ANet spend their time reading over reports for leeching, botting, etc. The language filters are there for those who want them, and there is no reason for reporting language. If someone wants to be racist and you're offended, just ignore them and don't pick a fight.

/signed for great justice

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

My mate said RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you to some asshole in a run. He got 3 of his guildmates and himself to report him and my mate ended up with a week ban. So yeah, either Anet needs to look at it more carefully (dont think they can considering far more important stuff) or It needs to be removed or something. The Idea of it is cool, but It doesn't translate well into the hands of 11 year olds who shouldn't really be playing the game anyway.

Also, about the EULA thing, seriously come on. You expect to play a game where no one swears at all? I don't agree with racist comments, nor just spamming swears and stuff but stuff can slip out and it shouldn't be bannable just because they want to have their chat filter off. Why turn it off if you get offended that easily?

Edit: The filter on this site makes everything hilarious

thesupersaver · Aug 22, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

Verbal abuse as was mentioned above you ****ing dumb***, not swearing ****face. For example, there were some Ukrainian people on the American server shouting something in another language, and I said "annoying Ukrainians." They then spammed me for 3 minutes saying, well I am not 100% sure, but it had the word DIE in it. That is abuse, and something which absolutely was the purpose of the report feature.

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

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Originally Posted by thesupersaver

Verbal abuse as was mentioned above you ****ing dumb***, not swearing ****face. For example, there were some Ukrainian people on the American server shouting something in another language, and I said "annoying Ukrainians." They then spammed me for 3 minutes saying, well I am not 100% sure, but it had the word DIE in it. That is abuse, and something which absolutely was the purpose of the report feature.

Hey I agree, I'm not to keen on people spamming Die on me either. But how do we seperate real abuse from people just reporting you for swearing on the once off occassion? I couldn't report the guys for scamming me out of my CoF run becuase they could report me for swearing once :/

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39

I totally agree with Chocobo1. When you first install gw the chat filter is on by default, and only people who are not offended by such language that is hidden by the chat filter should be turning it off. Most of the time there are peope who abuse the /report feature and are not actually offended just mad and they have no other way to retalliate but to stoop as low as to report people. If you are offended by some one you dont know over the internet then maybe you should turn off all your chats. If some one who can very well live 1000 miles away from you can offend you with words then you should just shout "WORDS HURT ASSHOLE" and turn off you game. Things people should be reported for are like botting and leeching etc. There are alot of ways to protect yourself from being offended over a video game, turn off chats put on your filter, or even grow a pair...

Stockholm · Aug 22, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Sigh, another moron who can't use the English language properly got his bottom slapped, and now comes here for some comfort.

/not signed

TheodenKing · Aug 22, 2008, 03:56 AM // 03:56

Regarding the OP, look a little closer at your choices for reporting. You can report someone for "abusive language," not for vulgar language. I'm sure your potty mouth is getting you reported, but those people are stuffing round pegs into a square hole.

If this confuses you, pick up a f**kin dictionary, you f**kin noob! (The first use was vulgar, the second was abusive).

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 03:59 AM // 03:59

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

Sigh, another moron who can't use the English language properly got his bottom slapped, and now comes here for some comfort.

/not signed

Oh dear. I'm fine if you are all anti-swearing and so forth, but to me they are just words that just express my annoyance at a situation. Excuse me for not calling people pooheads and proceeding to suck my thumb in comfort. We live in a society exposed to this kind of language all the time, some from a very early age. By the time they are able to play Guild Wars, they would have heard this language before.

Knowing swear words in no way means I can't use the English language properly. To be honest, calling me a moron for using swear words just makes me think of how ignorant you must be of how things work.

Kumu Honua · Aug 22, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by TheodenKing

Regarding the OP, look a little closer at your choices for reporting. You can report someone for "abusive language," not for vulgar language. I'm sure your potty mouth is getting you reported, but those people are stuffing round pegs into a square hole.

If this confuses you, pick up a f**kin dictionary, you f**kin noob! (The first use was vulgar, the second was abusive).

However if you report them using the website version you can simply choose "EULA" and then "Violation report".

So the square peg is actually going into a square hole.

The simple fact is that foul language will get you a slap on the wrist. Live with that or simply spend a lot of time temp banned.

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheodenKing

Regarding the OP, look a little closer at your choices for reporting. You can report someone for "abusive language," not for vulgar language. I'm sure your potty mouth is getting you reported, but those people are stuffing round pegs into a square hole.

If this confuses you, pick up a f**kin dictionary, you f**kin noob! (The first use was vulgar, the second was abusive).

I getcha, but no one else seems to realize the difference and takes it as an insult. I'm not saying go around swearing at everything that moves, I'm saying that I shouldn't have to be worried about being banned for swearing on occasion.